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Ana and TD 3 take aim at the Lesser Antilles
Posted by: Dr. Jeff Masters, 16:17:GMT den 15. august 2009 +7
Tropical Storm Ana was born this morning, when the remnants of Tropical Depression Two made a comeback and organized into the first tropical storm of the 2009 Atlantic hurricane season. Ana is the latest first named storm of the season since Hurricane Andrew got its name on August 17, 1992. The two storms have some similarities, as Andrew formed in the same part of the ocean, and also struggled in its early days with high wind shear and dry air. Let's hope the similarities end there.

Ana is struggling this afternoon. After an modest burst of heavy thunderstorm activity prompted NHC to upgrade Ana to a tropical storm early this morning, Ana has run into strong upper-level winds from the west that are creating high wind shear. This shear was not forecast, and it is not clear how long it will last. The shear has acted to drive dry air into the core of Ana, destroying almost all of Ana's heavy thunderstorms. The low-level center of the storm is now exposed to view, something that often foreshadows the death of a storm. It is possible the shear will destroy Ana, and several models (the GFS and ECMWF) forecast this may be the case. However, the shear forecast calls for shear to drop into the low range, 5 - 10 knots, tonight through Tuesday. If the shear does drop as forecast, Ana should be able to moisten the atmosphere around it sufficiently to protest itself from the dry Saharan air that surrounds it (Figure 1). SSTs are 27°C today, and will increase to 28°C by Sunday. By the time Ana moves into the Bahamas, total ocean heat content rises steeply (Figure 2), and rapid intensification of Ana is possible, if the shear and dry air haven't disrupted the storm. The intensity forecast models, for the most part, predict a steady intensification of Ana to the threshold of hurricane strength five days from now. The HWRF model is on the strong side, predicting a Category 2 hurricane. The GFDL predicts a weak tropical storm five days from now, but that is because the model has Ana passing over the rugged terrain of Hispaniola, something the other models do not predict. In summary, the intensity forecast for Ana has higher than usual uncertainty, and I give equal chances that the storm will be a hurricane--or non-existent--four days from now.


Figure 1. Water vapor image from this morning showing the large area of dry, Saharan air surrounding Ana, and lying to the north of Tropical Depression Three. Image credit: NOAA/SSD

Tropical Depression Three forms, could be Bill later today
QuikSCAT data from this morning and satellite loops revealed that the tropical wave (90L) in the middle Atlantic has finally developed a well developed surface circulation and can be classified as Tropical Depression Three. Recent satellite imagery suggests that TD 3 may already be Tropical Storm Bill. Water vapor imagery (Figure 1) shows that TD 3's center consolidated a few hundred miles south of the dry air of the Saharan Air Layer (SAL). Thus, the storm should not be affected by dry air and dust as much as Ana has been. Ana may also act to moisten the atmosphere in front of TD 3, helping protect the storm from the SAL as it edges farther north over the the three days.



Figure 2. Heat content of the ocean, in kJ per square cm. Oceanic heat content steadily increases for Ana and TD 3 as they approach the Lesser Antilles Islands. Oceanic heat content levels of 90 kJ per square cm are frequently associated with rapid intensification of hurricanes. Image credit: University of Miami.

Wind shear is moderate, 15 knots, but is forecast to fall to 10 - 15 knots on days 2 - 5. Sea Surface Temperatures are about 27.5°C, and will remain in the 27.5 - 28°C range the next five days. The combination of low wind shear and sufficiently warm SSTs should allow TD 3 to intensify steadily, and I expect the storm will be at hurricane strength by Wednesday, when it will be near the northern Lesser Antilles Islands. Most of our reliable intensity models strengthen TD 3 into a hurricane by Wednesday. Oceanic heat content (Figure 2) increases sharply just before the islands, so TD 3 could be intensifying rapidly as it moves through or just north of the Lesser Antilles on Thursday. TD 3 consolidated farther south than expected, so the track models calling for a more northerly path were probably incorrect. In particular, the ECMWF model, which had TD 3 turning sharply northwestward and missing the Lesser Antilles Islands, was probably much too far to the north in this morning's 00Z run. TD 3 will probably pass very close to the northern Lesser Antilles islands on Wednesday and Thursday.

I'll have an update Sunday.

Jeff Masters
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2851. Skyepony (Mod) 03:07:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Keith's note: Sources report that the LRO team has assembled a series of polar images into a mosaic but they are refusing to release these mosaics - or the images - to interested parties - or to the public.
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2852. jipmg 03:07:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I think by now it's pretty well obvious to all of us what's going to happen here. There are those that can accept and deal with it....and those of us who can not.


I dont think its obvious.. whats going to happen ?
2853. FloridaTigers 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting HurricaneKyle:


Ike at 5 days was going forcasted to hit Florida. Bill though is very far south, It will have start moving NW by 5 AM for it to be a fish storm. Its still moving W-WSW at 260 degrees.


Yeah, I think its hilarious people are calling it a fish storm already. Leave it up to this blog. It might turn, but its way too far away to know when, where, and if.
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2854. Drakoen 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
At the present time, according to the quickscat, 91L only has an 850mb vort maximum.
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2855. luvnbrat64 03:10:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting flsky:


I can see the flashes of lightning now from DB Shores. Guess it's coming my way.

Port Orange here
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2856. Orcasystems 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
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2858. canesrule1 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
If Bill does not curve SFLA is in danger:
2859. sfla82 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting 100l:
anyone thinking bill could be a fish storm?


Oh, Bill is definetly a fish storm, unless it hits Bermuda....
2860. srada 03:08:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting Weather456:





Thats the problem, becuz its 5 days away, how much will that track will shift? More than often, the storm never ends up at the 5 day point.


BIGGEST
CHALLENGE WILL CONCERN TIMING THE ARRIVAL OF THIS FEATURE. GFS HAS
BEEN SHOWING SOME CONSISTENCY WHILE THE ECMWF HAS BEEN VERY
INCONSISTENT


Im quite confused because our local NWS is saying its the other way around with the ECmWF? Am I reading that wrong?
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2861. Ameister12 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
I think I'm gonna turn in for tonight.

Maybe we might see Bill strengthen by 5am, and who knows what Ana might do by that time.
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2862. nyhurricaneboy 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
I know this may be going out too far in the forecast period, but do you think that Bill could pose a threat to the Northeast, specifically the NYC area? The models are indicating that this may occur about a week and a half out.
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2863. HurricaneRoman 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
im not buying the forecast for the storms right now, especially bill. I cant see a storm making such a hard turn! When is the recon flying into bill?
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2864. Skyepony (Mod) 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Keith's note: Sources report that the LRO team has assembled a series of polar images into a mosaic but they are refusing to release these mosaics - or the images - to interested parties - or to the public.
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2865. HIEXPRESS 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
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2866. FloridaTigers 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Canesrule1, you seem awfully bent on hurricanes hitting Miami...
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2867. KEHCharleston 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting clwstmchasr:
2824. Tazmanian 11:01 PM EDT on August 15, 2009
bill is way too far S too be a fis storm sorry i this dont see it being a fish storm


Who said it would be a fish storm? Isn't Bermuda an island?
Bermuda is a pretty small target : )
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2868. Orcasystems 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting Funkadelic:

Well I guess you and I are the only ones noticing the models are wrong at this point. Right now its moving fast west at 16mph with jogs to the south. That is not going to help it recurve.


Ana's tracks have shifted south

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2869. jipmg 03:09:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
At the present time, according to the quickscat, 91L only has an 850mb vort maximum.


what is quickscat saying about ANA and BILL
2870. HurricaneKyle 03:10:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting Drakoen:
At the present time, according to the quickscat, 91L only has an 850mb vort maximum.


Looking at the radar it has a decent MLC.
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2871. Thaale 03:10:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting CosmicEvents:
I think by now it's pretty well obvious to all of us what's going to happen here. There are those that can accept and deal with it....and those of us who can not.
Exactly. The other models have finally caught up to the ECM. The models will continue to trend N and E. PR and the northern islands will be out of the cone in 24 hours.
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2872. canesrule1 03:11:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting FloridaTigers:
Canesrule1, you seem awfully bent on hurricanes hitting Miami...
yes i am, because i really don't want us to be affected by anything.
2873. HurricaneRoman 03:11:GMT den 16. august 2009    
I just needa learn not to take the models/forecast for these storms to seriously, they almost ALWAYS change. Just gotta stay alert
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2874. reedzone 03:11:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Convection trying to wrap around Bills center..

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2875. truecajun 03:11:GMT den 16. august 2009    

whaaaaat? what does that mean?
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2876. jipmg 03:12:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting Thaale:
Exactly. The other models have finally caught up to the ECM. The models will continue to trend N and E. PR and the northern islands will be out of the cone in 24 hours.


but the storm isnt moving like models are forecasting, they are forecasting it to be moving NW shortly and then out to sea, its moving w-wsw right now
2877. reedzone 03:12:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting nyhurricaneboy:
I know this may be going out too far in the forecast period, but do you think that Bill could pose a threat to the Northeast, specifically the NYC area? The models are indicating that this may occur about a week and a half out.


I have been indicating a possibility of a Northeast landfall, it's still possible, keep monitoring this system closely.
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2878. IKE 03:12:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting lopaka001:
IKE is that Jimmy and Robert in your avatar?
My LCD screen is huge it is so hard to tell for me with these high rez settings..


LOL got a question for everyone and no this is not a joke!
I have a wedding to attend in the Caicos Island on Tuesday
and it is on the beach something tells me it is going to be interesting should I cancel my trip??
Anyone care to take a stab at this hehe..


Yup...Zeppelin...

Should be okay on Tuesday. NHC shows Ana getting ripped apart over DR/Haiti Tuesday, IF it's still around til Tuesday.
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2879. sfla82 03:13:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting canesrule1:
If Bill does not curve SFLA is in danger:


nah...
2880. truecajun 03:14:GMT den 16. august 2009    
if ana holds it together, which i think she will, she's going swell quickly in the gulf.
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2881. HurricaneKyle 03:14:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting reedzone:
Convection trying to wrap around Bills center..



I heard talk earlier about the LLC shifting south into the deepest convection, that would be interesting to watch. Would screw up the models big time.
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2882. Patrap 03:14:GMT den 16. august 2009    
90L

NEXRAD Radar
Tampa, Base Reflectivity 0.50 Degree Elevation Range 248 NMI



90L
NEXRAD Radar
Tampa, Echo Tops Range 124 NMI

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2883. CosmicEvents 03:15:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting jipmg:


I dont think its obvious.. whats going to happen ?

C'mon...you've been around long enough to see what's what. You know what I'm talking about. This isn't the place to talk about specifics.
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2884. jipmg 03:15:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Ana's center jogged up towards the NW a bit.. based on the latest satellite, we have to watch it
2885. nash28 03:16:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Recon will fly Bill once it reaches 55W.
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2886. FloridaTigers 03:16:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting HurricaneKyle:


I heard talk earlier about the LLC shifting south into the deepest convection, that would be interesting to watch. Would screw up the models big time.


Bill needs to start moving WNW by 40W or else the cone will start shifting.
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2888. jipmg 03:16:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting CosmicEvents:

C'mon...you've been around long enough to see what's what. You know what I'm talking about. This isn't the place to talk about specifics.


LOL I came here yesterday, and I sense sarcasm
2889. truecajun 03:17:GMT den 16. august 2009    
our local guy didn't even mention 91L
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2890. Thaale 03:17:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting jipmg:


but the storm isnt moving like models are forecasting, they are forecasting it to be moving NW shortly and then out to sea, its moving w-wsw right now
The NHC track, following the models, shows Bill continuing to move WSW for a while yet before gradually turning to W and then WNW. Nothing is based on it suddenly changing course to 315, so nothing is disproven by it not having done so.

This track and the discussion are both half an hour old and both take the current 270 motion into account.
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2892. Skyepony (Mod) 03:18:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting truecajun:



whaaaaat? what does that mean?


Not really sure.. undo the quote if you will. I was going to take it back down.. One of those not sure if I was suppose to see, just thought I'd share..
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2893. mobilegirl81 03:18:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Anything out on 91L?
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2894. FloridaTigers 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting jipmg:
Ana's center jogged up towards the NW a bit.. based on the latest satellite, we have to watch it


I don't see it. Looks more due west.
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2895. AussieStorm 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting truecajun:
if ana holds it together, which i think she will, she's going swell quickly in the gulf.

I to would swell quickly if i had so much to feed on.
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2896. winter123 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting AllStar17:
New track more of a W or WNW'ly course initially, but then more of a NW component through 5 days. I would not be surprised, actually, if Ana moved south of the Caribbean islands.


ana is weak so it will stay in the carribean
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2897. Skyepony (Mod) 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
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2899. nyhurricaneboy 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
I think that Ana may pull an Ernesto on us. I think that it will strengthen to about 60 mph by the time it reaches Hispaniola, weaken to a depression as it passes through Hispaniola and Cuba, and restrengthen to about 65-70 mph by the time it reaches the Gulf Coast.
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2900. Patrap 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
90L NEXRAD Radar
Tampa, Storm Relative Mean Radial Velocity 1.45 Degree Elevation Range 124 NMI


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2901. Orcasystems 03:19:GMT den 16. august 2009    
Quoting jipmg:


LOL I came here yesterday, and I sense sarcasm


I have been coming here for years..and at times I sense stupidity.. but I don't say it :)
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